Moksha and Karma
Q. They speak of Avadhuthas also. Who are called so? What are their qualifications?
A. Like the Vaanaprasthas and the Sanyaasis, they too have to be free
from all attachment and hatred; they do not take any interest in their
surroundings; whether it is a forest or town, they are not worried in
the least. They have no relation with others. They pay no heed to past,
present or future. They move about on thorn and stone, silent, smiling
to themselves, ever joyous, ever alert, seeking no comfort and no shelter,
seeking no place to sleep or take food; for Ananda is their Ahara (food).
There are Avadhuthas even today in the Himalayas, in silent caves, immersed
in their own inner Atmaananda. Not all can see them. Only good luck can
bring you to their presence.
But there are many who pretend to be Avadhuthas and who go about with
that name. The genuine ones would not seek men; nor appear in public.
Even if they miss their way and come among men they just slip away silently
lest they draw attention to themselves. When you find an Avadhutha freely
moving in company and mixing with human affairs, take him to be a Yamadhutha,
a monster!
Q. How long is one bound by the Deha-dharma, the obligations and duties
related to the body?
A. As long as the Jivatma is not cognised. When that is discovered and
known, there is no more need.
Q. How long is one aware of this Jivatma itself?
A. Until the stream joins the sea. Till the stream of Jivi reaches the
source from which it came, the Sea of Paramatma.
Q. What is Moksha?
A. Moksha is Liberation from all that binds. That is to say, the attainment
of the ever-existing, ever-stable, ever pure Atma-thathwa; getting rid
of the ever-changing, ever unreal, impure Deha-thathwa.
Q. That attainment is not for all, is it, Swami?
A. Why do you say so? Every one who equips himself can attain it; those
who make the effort are attaining it. Everyone who is ill is entitled
to the medicine; you cannot say that only some among them are. Yet, if
the drug is costly, only those who can afford it can benefit by it. The
Lord's Grace is hard to get; you have to pay a heavy price. Pay the price,
that is to say, earn it by Sadhana and the Grace of the Lord will save
you from this Bhavaroga (the disease of worldliness).
Q. Who are those that most need this Sadhana?
A. All who yearn to be saved from the flood of "birth-death" which is
now sweeping them along.
Q. Baba! What is the cause of man getting born?
A. The impact of Karma.
Q. How many varieties of Karma are there?
A. Three! Bad, good and mixed; some add a fourth, the Karma of the Jnani
which is neither good nor bad.
Q. What is bad Karma?
A. It is called Dushkarma. All acts done without the fear of God or of
falling into sin; all acts done while under the influence of the six enemies,
Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha, Mada and Maatsarya; all acts that reveal the
beast in man, that do not indicate that he is possessed of Viveka, Vichakshana
and Vairagya; that are devoid of Daya, Dharma, Sathya, Santhi and Prema
- these are Dushkarmas.
Q. And the Sath-Karmas?
A. All acts done in the fear of God and of sin; all acts done with Sathya,
Dharma, Santhi, and Prema; these are the Sathkarmas.
Q. What are the Misra-karmas, the mixed ones?
A. They are an interesting lot. Though the acts are good, though apparently
they are prompted by fear of God and of sin, still, they reveal impulses
that are quite the opposite. People start rest-houses and water-distributing
centres, for example, but they do not pay the servants regularly and well.
Their aim is just to win some fame. They give to the poor as alms only
useless clothes and worn coins. Whatever they do, their purpose is to
get publicity.
Q. You also spoke of Jnanakarma, Swami.
A. Yes; Jnanakarma is the name used for all acts done to learn from sacred
scriptures or elders or teachers the way to escape from the bondage to
duality and to the falsity of the world and to develop faith in the values
of Sathya, Dharma, Santhi, and Prema; all acts that lead to the merging
of the individual in the Universal Absolute.